Internet filters filter out Jesus-is-Lord.com
THERE IS NO HATE ON OUR SITE,
BUT SOME PEOPLE HATE TO READ IT.
Today's filtering is like being placed on Rome's Index of Prohibited Books like the Bible was. From the internet--"The Vatican offices that published the Index Librorum Prohibitorum, which were active from 1559 until 1966, listed books that Catholics should neither own nor read under pain of excommunication. During the index's long life, the public was told about the latest bans but not the reasons for them. Behind closed doors, though, Vatican officials held long and sometimes heated debates about the books of the day. For over a decade now, Wolf has been building up a catalogue of those sessions that he wants to start posting on the Internet in 2005. With just a few mouse clicks, researchers will be able to survey the wide range of issues the Vatican reviewed and learn exactly where to find the files on them.
" 'Nowhere else in the world did an institution try to control the medium of modern times, the book, for over 400 years,' said the 44-year-old Wolf, a diocesan priest and professor of history at Munster University in Germany. 'Rome monitored the book market and reviewed all important publications.' The archives covering thousands of books offer a unique peek into centuries of Vatican thinking on theology, philosophy, history, politics, science and literature."
keywords: censorship, no freedom of speech, prohibition of free speech
THIS ARTICLE THAT YOU ARE READING HAS A LOT OF ASPECTS TO IT, INCLUDING A NOTE TO THE BRETHREN AND ENCOURAGING SECTIONS. THIS SITUATION GOES BACK TO JANUARY 1998 WHEN I WAS FIRST NOTIFIED OF THE JESUS-IS-LORD.COM INCLUSION ON HATEWATCH (WHICH BROUGHT A NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO THE WEBSITE TO HEAR THE TRUTH AND TO BE EDIFIED. SOME TESTIMONIES ARE FOUND BELOW).
What you will read:
- The latest: France and German Governments get Google to ban www.JESUS-IS-LORD.com
- Sis. Tracy's response (email to the inJesus.com mailing list)
- Email received 1-23-03--"This site is forbidden because.(etc)..Hate & Descrimination."
- More information on the systematic banning (posted 2-10-03)
- Internet filtering services filter out Jesus-is-Lord.com (thanks to HateWatch and/or others)
- Jesus-is-Lord.com on Simon Wiesenthal Center's "Cyberwatch Taskforce Against Hate" and the speech "The Inverted Image: Antisemitism and Anti-Catholicism on the Internet" ********WHAT STRANGE BEDFELLOWS********
- But why are you being filtered?
- Encouraging email exchange with a Christian web filter
- Closing items
- Someone found us through "Stop the Hate", "Apparently you get listed if you are Anti-anything. Although I did not see any listed like Anti-Pedophile."
The latest: France and German Governments get Google to ban www.JESUS-IS-LORD.com
Google excluding controversial sites
By Declan McCullagh
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
October 23, 2002, 8:55 PM PT
Google, the world's most popular search engine, has quietly deleted more than 100 controversial sites from some search result listings.
Learn more about Google
Absent from Google's French and German listings are Web sites that are anti-Semitic, pro-Nazi or related to white supremacy, according to a new report from Harvard University's Berkman Center. Also banned is Jesus-is-lord.com, a fundamentalist Christian site that is adamantly opposed to abortion.
Google confirmed on Wednesday that the sites had been removed from listings available at Google.fr and Google.de. The removed sites continue to appear in listings on the main Google.com site.
The Harvard report, prepared by law student Ben Edelman and assistant professor Jonathan Zittrain, and scheduled to be released Thursday, is the result of automated testing of Google's massive 2.5 billion-page index and a comparison of the results returned by different foreign-language versions. The duo found 113 excluded sites, most with racial overtones.
"To avoid legal liability, we remove sites from Google.de search results pages that may conflict with German law," said Google spokesman Nate Tyler. He indicated that each site that was delisted came after a specific complaint from a foreign government.
German law considers the publication of Holocaust denials and similar material as an incitement of racial and ethnic hatred, and therefore illegal. In the past, Germany has ordered Internet providers to block access to U.S. Web sites that post revisionist literature.
France has similar laws that allowed a students' antiracism group to successfully sue Yahoo in a Paris court for allowing Third Reich memorabilia and Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" to be sold on the company's auction sites. In November 2001, a U.S. judge ruled that the First Amendment's guarantee of free speech protects Yahoo from liability.
The Harvard report comes as Google is becoming increasingly embroiled in international political disputes over copyright and censorship. China blocked access to Google last month.
Google was criticized in March for bowing to a demand from the Church of Scientology to delete critical sites from its index. In a response that won praise, Google replied by pledging to report future legal threats to the ChillingEffects.org site run by law school clinics.
As Google has become the way more and more people find information on the Internet, it has also become an increasingly visible target for copyright complaints about cached information and allegedly infringing links. ChillingEffect.org's Google section lists 16 requests or legal threats the company has received in the past three months. One Google competitor and critic even suggested that the wildly popular search engine be transformed into a government-controlled "public utility."
Edelman, who created the program that tested URLs against Google's index, said he was investigating a tip about Google's German-language version.
"One concern that I've had for some time vis-a-vis filtering is that filtering is almost always secretive," Edelman said. "In the (library filtering) case, that meant you can't look at the list of blocked sites. In the Chinese government case, you can't see what sites are being blocked."
Edelman, who is a first-year law student, testified as an expert witness for the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) in a court challenge to a law requiring libraries to install filtering software if they accept federal funds. He is also a plaintiff in a second lawsuit filed in June to eviscerate key portions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
Google refused to reply to a list of questions that CNET News.com sent via e-mail, including which sites have been delisted, how many sites have been delisted, what standards are used, and what other Google-operated sites have less-than-complete listings.
In an e-mail response, Google's Tyler said: "As a matter of company policy we do not provide specific details about why or when we removed any one particular site from our index. We occasionally receive notices from partners, users, government agencies and the like about sites in our index. We carefully consider any credible complaint on a case-by-case basis and take necessary action when needed. This is not pre-emptive--we only react to requests that come to us...to avoid legal liability, we remove sites from Google search results pages that may conflict with local laws."
Tyler said an internal team involving lawyers, management and engineers makes the final decision on what to remove. "At Google we take these types of decisions very seriously," he said. "The objective is to limit legal exposure while continuing to deliver high quality search results that enable our users to find the information they need quickly and easily."
Tyler pointed to Google's terms of service agreement, which says Google will "consider on a case-by-case basis requests" to remove links from its index.
A moving target
Because Google has to keep track of a constantly moving target--new sites arguably illegal under French or German law appear every day--the search engine is encountering the same problems of overinclusiveness that traditional filtering software has experienced.
According to the Harvard report, some sites that Google does not list include 1488.com, a "Chinese legal consultation network," and 14words.com, a discount Web-hosting service and some conservative, anti-abortion religious sites. Those sites do not appear to violate either German or French laws.
Banned from Google.de and Google.fr listings is Stormfront.org, one of the Internet's most popular "white pride" sites. Stormfront features discussion areas, a library of white nationalist articles and essays by David Duke, a former Ku Klux Klan leader.
"We've been dealing with this for quite a few years," said Don Black, who runs the site. "The German police agencies seem obsessed with Stormfront even though we're not focused on any German language material."
Black, who learned a few months ago that Google.de delisted Stormfront, says he doesn't hold it against the Mountain View, Calif.-based company. "Google is trying to conform to their outrageous laws," Black said. "So there's really nothing we can do about it. It's really a French and German issue rather than a Google issue."
The First Amendment
Because Google is a company and not a government agency, it has the right in general to delete listings from its service or alter the way they appear. (On Tuesday, however, CNET News.com reported that an Oklahoma advertising company has sued Google over its position in search results.)
"Google may not only have the legal right to (delete listings), they may have the legal obligation to do it," said Barry Steinhardt, director of the ACLU's technology and liberty program, and a co-founder of the Global Internet Liberty Campaign.
"Over the long term, this will become a significant issue on the Net," Steinhardt said. "There's a wide variety of laws around the world prohibiting different forms of speech. You can imagine what the Chinese government prohibits versus what the French government prohibits versus what the U.S. government prohibits."
Edelman, of Harvard's Berkman Center, suggests that Google find a way to alert users that information is missing from their search results.
"If Google is prohibited from linking to Stormfront, they could include a listing but no link," Edelman said. "And if they can't even include a listing for Stormfront, they could at least report the fact that they've hidden results from the user. The core idea here is that there's no need to be secretive."
Sis. Tracy's response (email to the inJesus.com mailing list)
"This site is forbidden because.(etc)..Hate & Descrimination."
following email received 1-23-03--
I work on a computer at work and have internet access. I use the internet for purchasing, research, and updating in my department. I really like Jesus-Is-Lord.com and attempted to access it. After typing in my firewall access code a screen came up stating:
Forbidden: Dyna B Locator : This site is forbidden because.(etc)..Hate & Descrimination.
I thought to myself, as well as sharing with others in my department, that the secualr computers have been programmed to be good "Roman Citizens". It is amazing...but the Lord's words ring true....They, the secular world, hate us....
Thanks for being an inspiration to so many people.... Peace in Jesus Christ Our Lord.....
(following email received 1-24-03)
I have to tell you things I forgot to tell on the last e-mail. I installed AOL in my computer just to try it, and I connected. I put a parental control, so evil sites would not enter my PC, for my surprise, I went to Jesus is Lord and it was BLOCKED (I don't know if you already knew), it was classified a 'Hate-filled Website' (I don't know why ! It doesn't say nothing against no one, it says Biblical content against deceits and modern witchcraft [mormonism, catholicism, etc.].
More information on the systematic banning (posted 2-10-03)
from this article, we see that the foreign governments are SUING search engines to violently force them to stop including certain websites.Can Europe Block Racist Websites from its Borders? And If So, Will Hatemongers Seek the U.S.'s Technological Asylum? By ANITA RAMASASTRY ---- Wednesday, Feb. 05, 2003 Based on a treaty that went into effect last week, Europe is attempting to shut out racist and xenophobic "hate" web sites. Meanwhile, a new contact network "operating round the clock and seven days a week," is being set up to provide European police forces with immediate assistance with their investigations. The result of Europe's actions, however, may not be to shut down such sites. Instead, the United States may become a haven for hatemongers' sites, due to the strength of our First Amendment. The Council of Europe's New Anti-Cyber-Hate Treaty Provision The members of the Council of Europe (COE) are signatories to the 2001 Convention on Cybercrime - which was conceived to deal with Internet crime such as virus attacks and website hacking. Just last week, 12 out of 44 of the COE's member States signed an additional protocol to the Convention that has a very different purpose. The new protocol is motivated by the COE's desire to harmonize members' domestic laws and bring together Europe in a cohesive fight against racism and xenophobia on the Internet. The COE also wants to improve international, or at least regional, cooperation with respect to the investigation and prosecution of cyberspace hate speech. The Council argued, in its report on the new protocol, that it is a necessary response to the fact that "[t]he emergence of international communication networks like the Internet provide certain persons with modern and powerful means to support racism and xenophobia and enables them to disseminate easily and widely expressions containing such ideas." The original COE Cybercrime treaty was also signed by a number of non-COE states: the U.S., Canada, Japan, Mexico and South Africa. These states can choose to sign on to the protocol too, if they want. But the United States, for one, is highly unlikely to do so - especially since the protocol, which is both content-based and vague, conflicts with the First Amendment, and would, if enforced, chill political speech. The Specifics of the Protocol The protocol broadens the treaty's scope to cover offenses relating to distribution of racist or xenophobic propaganda via computer. According to a COE statement, it will "eliminate racist websites from the internet and define and criminalize hate-speech on computer networks." What counts as "racist" or "xenophobic" speech? The protocol reaches "any written material, any image or any other representation of ideas or theories, which advocates, promotes or incites hatred, discrimination or violence, against any individual or group of individuals, based on race, colour, descent or national or ethnic origin, as well as religion if used as pretext for any of these factors." It also requires signatory states to enact domestic laws, if they have not already done so, criminalizing intentionally distributing, or "making available" via computer such material - or, in addition, material which denies, minimizes, approves of or justifies crimes genocide or crimes against humanity. Reading such material, however, will not be criminalized, and the racist or xenophobic character of the material, not just the distribution or availability, must be intentional to count as a crime. That means Internet Service Providers (ISPs) do not commit a crime if they merely serve as an unwitting conduit or host for extremist material. What counts as "distributing" or "making available"? Even linking to banned material may be criminal. And it is clear that "[e]xchanging racist and xenophobic material in chat rooms, [or] posting similar messages in newsgroups or discussion fora" would count. Strikingly, under the protocol, even password-protected "private" sites may be criminal if the general public, or even a general class of persons, can access them. Truly private communications - such as one-to-one emails - however, are exempt from the protocol. The Advent of A U.S./Europe Cyberhate Divide Besides reflecting a strong European stance against hate speech, the new COE protocol may represent the first step in the "zoning" of cyberspace - in which access to content may be restricted based on the user's citizenship and domicile. Americans may be able to access content that Europeans no longer can. How? European governments may even filter extremist material so that their citizens cannot access it. Or ISPs may end up doing their job for them. As noted above, ISPs are exempt from the protocol if they are unaware of hate speech they unwittingly host. But what if a complaint brings such speech to their attention? In that event, the prudent course for the ISP is to shut down the site, whether or not it truly fits within the protocol, and wait to see if the poster wins a court challenge. Most ISPs expressly retain the right to remove harmful or offending material in their contracts with their customers, so for them deposting is the safest course: The customer, due to the contract, has no recourse, and the ISP then eliminates any risk. Even the prospect of possible civil liability for libel has convinced ISPs in Britain and elsewhere in Europe to ban websites from their servers. Certainly the risk of criminal liability will prove an even stronger incentive for ISPs to depost. More Hate Sites Are Likely to Be Hosted - And Perhaps Also Operated - in the U.S. Web hosting for extremist sites may change somewhat, as well - as it is driven out of Europe and into the U.S. According to the COE, the majority of hate websites seem to be U.S.-based anyway. As part of its deliberations, the COE cited a report noting that 2,500 out of 4,000 racist sites were created in the United States. But in the wake of the protocol, even more sites are likely to begin to use U.S. host servers, rather than European ones. Some may also choose to move their operations and personnel to the U.S. - a frightening thought for American who, while they respect the right to speak, don't welcome an influx of hate-filled neighbors. The Yahoo! Case, and Why the Protocol May Raise the Same Issue From the hate sites' perspective, it makes sense for them to move. U.S. court decisions have strongly supported the First Amendment in cyberspace, even when the speech is hateful - and have suggested that the U.S. has no duty to enforce contrary European law. Last year, for instance, a U.S. federal district court judge ruled that Yahoo did not have to block French citizens' access to online sales of Nazi memorabilia, which are illegal in France. (In France, such sales violate a criminal statute outlawing the exhibition of Nazi propaganda and artifacts for sale.) The case arose because Yahoo!'s U.S. homepage included an auction site that, in turn, included Nazi and Third Reich-related materials.French citizens could access the materials directly through the U.S. site, or through a link on the French Yahoo! site. As a result, a French court concluded that Yahoo! was guilty of breaking the French law. The French court accordingly issued an order requiring Yahoo! to take measures to block French citizen's access to the U.S. site, with a penalty of 100,000 Euros for each day of non-compliance with the order. Yahoo! partially complied, but felt that it did not have the necessarily technology to fully comply. Accordingly, it sued in a California federal district court, seeking a declaratory judgment against the enforcement of the French court order on the ground that enforcement would violate the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment. The court agreed. (An appeal is currently pending in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.) This principle established in the Yahoo! case may be put to the test again if European authorities seek to apply the new protocol extraterritorially, to sites based in the U.S. that are accessible in Europe. For example, what happens when French of German law enforcement asks U.S. police officers for information about extremists running a hate site in the U.S.? The COE itself clearly believes that its protocol applies extraterritorially. The protocol expressly makes cross-border communications of racist or xenophobic material by foreign websites illegal. And the COE seems to mean what it says. For instance, Ivar Tallo, an Estonian member of the COE Assembly, expressed his belief that the protocol would, and should, reach a French racist organization that, taking advantage of the First Amendment, had established a U.S. website even though it meant to influence French, not a U.S., audience. If the protocol were in place, Tallo commented, a racist organization "would not be able to hide behind American laws protecting freedom of speech." It may be up to U.S. courts to decide if Tallo is right - or if the Yahoo! judge, who thought American free speech law ought to apply in America, and European law in Europe, is correct. Or, alternatively, it may not be up to U.S. courts at all. Direct blocking by European countries of communications from U.S. sites thought to violate the protocol is also a possibility. Spain, for instance, recently passed legislation authorizing Spanish judges to block access to foreign webpages that are a threat to its national defense and public order. The Strong Conflict Between U.S. and European Free Speech Law Due to the striking difference between speech laws in the U.S. and Europe, the option of adhering to both does not exist. Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) does recognize a right to freedom of expression, which includes the freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas, and which covers even speech that offends, shock or disturbs the State or any sector of the population. But Article 10's right is far less broad that the right to free speech granted in the First Amendment. The European Court of Human Rights has held, for example, that a state's actions to restrict the right to freedom of expression may be justified when such ideas or expressions violated the rights of others. According, the ECHR is not thought to conflict with a number of laws that would never pass muster in the U.S., including laws in Spain, Germany and France outlawing Internet "racism" and denial of the Holocaust, and a U.K. law outlawing publication of material likely to incite racial hatred. The depth of the contrast between U.S. and European law can be illustrated by the case of Gerhard Lauck. Lauck publishes Nazi newspapers and a Nazi Web site from Nebraska with impunity. The site is legal in the U.S., but it is illegal in Germany, which has laws against Nazi propaganda that apply to any website Germans can access, wherever it is located. (Jurisdiction over even those sites outside Germany was upheld in a December 2000 German case.) While the U.S. may be horrified to become a haven for such cyberhatemongers as Lauck, it can at least be proud of being a haven for free speech at the same time.
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...the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
The Lord Jesus Christ
Gentle reader, this page may seem mixed up because there have been so many updates to it. HATEWATCH IS NOW OFF-LINE BUT WE ARE STILL BEING FILTERED.Your site is filtered out in Cyber Patrol internet filter but if when in the program you click off "block intolerant sites" you can access it. (email received 5-5-01)Well, well, well. I've finally confirmed that internet filters are now filtering our website. I believe all credit is due to HateWatch. Just thought I would let you know I found your site from a 1998 Hatewatch link. Thought your site was in the wrong group so I surfed on over. Very much enjoy!Here is the latest update. I received this email on 12-22-2000--
In His service, DDear Tracy, Just wanted to let you know that today at work on the school's computer, I tried to get on www.Jesus-is-Lord.com just as I've always done the past 2 years here and this came up:
Status: 403 Forbidden Description: Organizational policies prohibit access to this page Note: If necessary please contact your systems Administrator for resolution
At first I wasn't sure if our computer was just messing up, but seems like as of today, I won't be able to look at your webpage on the school district's comptuter.
In this article, there is a section entitled, "Background". As you can now see, my assessment was correct. A brother mentioned they couldn't find us on Hatewatch any more--but I said,
I'll bet they still put it [Jesus-is-Lord.com] on those block lists
I've known almost since the beginning of this website that it would not be on-line forever. King Jesus said, "Work while it is day, for the night cometh when NO MAN can work." The time is quickly coming, praise the Lord and amen. Those that know their God will be STRONG and do EXPLOITS. And those that have understanding among the people shall instruct many though they fall by the sword and by flame and by captivity many days. I'm happy to be part of that holy lot. Praise the Lord and amen. These things must needs come to pass until that great and terrible day of the LORD come. Thank God for the word. It lays it all out.
Jesus-is-Lord.com on Simon Wiesenthal Center's "Cyberwatch Taskforce Against Hate"
You can go see us at the Simon Wiesenthal Center's Cyberwatch Taskforce Against Hate [this may no longer be there] even though I love the Jewish people. King Jesus came here as a Jew, the Son of David. Yet, we are liberally mentioned/referenced in this speech (http://www.wiesenthal.com/watch/invertedimage.html) entitled, "The Inverted Image: Antisemitism and Anti-Catholicism on the Internet" [this link may no longer work, the speech with our commentary can be found here. Cursor down a little on this current page to just see our commentary on the speech given by Mark Weitzman and to find a link where the speech can be read. by Mark Weitzman of The Simon Wiesenthal Center. It was apparently delivered at
The Fifth Biennial Conference On Christianity and the Holocaust
Sponsored by The Julius and Dorothy Koppelman Holocaust/Genocide Resource Center and the Campus Ministry at Rider University
Christianity and Judaism:
History, The Holocaust and Reconciliation in The Third Millennium
October 18-19, 1998
[Update: Judaism and Rome together as one. "What strange bedfellows," I thought when I first came across this information--especially in light of
- Rome's killing of Jewish people in the Inquisition
- her decrees against Jewish people and
- her involvement in supporting Hitler's Germany (Pope Pius XII is known as "Hitler's Pope")
- "...on both sides of the Atlantic, as indeed all over the world, the [Roman Catholic] clerical voices were singing the praises of victorious Nazism."
- her deep involvement in Pavelic's Croatia with Roman Catholic clergy and priests even joining the Croatian nazi squads as killers killing Serbs, Jews, and Romas (gypsies). [Read about and see Roman Catholic Terror in Croatia.]
The reader may wish to see "[Vatican and its Jesuits] help was the main force behind the lightning rise of Hitler..." and the Table of Contents for articles on Roman Catholic Terror in Croatia which includes the descriptive book title, "Genocide in Croatia 1941-1945 750,000 Serbs 60,000 Jews" (Published by Serbian National Defense Council of Canada, Serbian National Defense Council of America).ANOTHER UPDATE (2013): The plot thickens. On page 365 of The Power and the Glory: Inside the Dark Heart of John Paul II's Vatican by David Yallop I quite unexpectedly came across the following information:"In October of 1998 Pope John Paul entered the fray. Declaring that Stepinac was 'one of the outstanding figures of the Catholic Church', he proclaimed the beatification of Alojzije Stepinac. During the previous month, deeply alarmed at this prospect, the **Simon Weisenthal Centre** wrote to Vatican spokesman Navarro-Valls asking that the Pope 'postpone this beautification until after the completion of an exhaustive study of Stepinac's wartime record based on full access to Vatican archives.'"
IT LOOKS LIKE WEITZMAN'S SPEECH WAS DELIVERED IN OCTOBER 1998--THAT EXACT SAME TIME PERIOD WHEN THE **SIMON WIESENTHAL CENTER** WAS ALLEGEDLY ASKING THE POPE TO POSTPONE BEATIFYING STEPINAC! THIS SHOWS RIGHT THERE THAT THE SIMON WIESENTHAL CENTER IS AWARE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN CROATIA. THAT BEING THE CASE, HOW COULD WEITZMAN ACTUALLY DEFEND ROME GIVEN HER RELATIONSHIP TO ADOLF HITLER AND ANTON PAVELIC AND MASSACRES OF JEWISH PEOPLE? WHAT IS THE SIMON WIESENTHAL CENTER? The book says this about it--"The Centre, internationally recognised for many decades as the pre-eminent hunter of war criminals, specifically those who were complicit in the Holocaust...." WHY WOULD SOMEONE FROM THAT GROUP RUN AFTER A TRUTH-TELLING FLEA (THE ONE AT THIS WEBSITE) IF HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE SEEKING JUSTICE FOR THE MEN, WOMEN, BOYS AND GIRLS THAT GOT BURNT TO DEATH AND TORTURED? AND THIS FLEA WEPT OUT LOUD AT THE HOLOCAUST MUSEUM MANY YEARS BACK. I HAD GONE THROUGH QUITE A BIT OF THE MUSEUM, AS I RECALL, WHEN, AT A CERTAIN POINT, ANGUISH JUST BURST OUT OF MY BODY OUT LOUD. WHY WOULD ANYBODY SEARCHING FOR WAR CRIMINALS ACT LIKE A FRONT MAN FOR THE VATICAN INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THE RAT LINES AND VATICAN COMPLICITY? If the dates that I see are correct, the Weitzman speech was delivered at the SAME time that the Simon Wiesenthal Centre was concerned about the beatification of convicted Roman Catholic war criminal Stepinac who deeply aided the Ustashas. IF WEITZMAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE SEEKING THE GOOD OF JEWISH VICTIMS OF THE HOLOCAUST--AN EVENT IN WHICH ROME WAS A MAJOR PLAYER, WHY WOULD HE TAKE IT UPON HIMSELF TO BE HER DEFENDER INSTEAD OF MAKING KNOWN WHAT SHE DID? AND WHY WOULD HE UTTER SUCH VIRULENT INVECTIVE AGAINST A TRUTH-TELLING FLEA????]
Here are our comments on the Weitzman speech.
This website, Jesus-is-Lord.com, has been on HateWatch since January of 1998. WARNING: [CHILDREN], DO NOT GO TO THE FOLLOWING LINK! If you want to know what is there, ask your parents to tell you. There is cursing and blasphemy by the other groups on this page. For adults that wish to verify that we are on HateWatch's anti-Christian list, you can go look for yourself at HateWatch.
Hold up! One of our readers, Jim, said, "Just wanted to let you know that I went to the HateWatch site and didn't see your site listed. I followed the link you gave, but didn't see it. Have they reorganized their list?"
I said to Jim, "Well, well, well!!!!! I just saw it on there a week ago and it's been there for over a year. At least one of our readers recently wrote them and I figure a whole lot more have also written and they [HateWatch] took it down [thanks to my brothers and sisters who've come to our defense over the past year. I love you in Christ. Jesus knows who you are.]-- but I'll bet they still put it on those block lists. People have been writing them for a year to take it off and now it is "poof!" gone. I hope I saved a copy of when it was on there. [I didn't] THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION! I'll look and see if they put it elsewhere. [I didn't see it]"
Then I wrote an e-mail to HateWatch today (June 16, 1999),Dear Sirs:
Our website (http://www.Jesus-is-Lord.com) has been on HateWatch for over a year (first listed January of 1998) and now I see it has been removed. Can you please tell me:
1. Are we still being put on blocklists through your cooperative agreements?
2. Why did your group finally take us off?
Thank you in advance for your attention and response.
I'll be surprised if I get an answer. So many HateWatch wanna-be's have taken our name from their listing I can only assume we'll continue to be blocked on many filters--and there is no guarantee that HateWatch has taken us off of their master list. Just because I can't see it on the [internet] does not mean it's not there anymore.
With this information in mind, please read on. The following information was written while we were still on the above link...
Yes, we've been on HateWatch's ANTI-CHRISTIAN section with Satanists for over a year now [June 1999]. HateWatch even got our title right, "Jesus Christ is the Only Way to God"...Mmmmm. [How ridiculous can a person get?] They put Jesus Christ is the Only Way to God under the ANTI-CHRISTIAN section. ...HateWatch...[took]...a factual statement out of context, but I'm not interested in their silly games. This site speaks for itself--Jesus Christ is the Lord and every one that does not worship him in accordance with his word is going to hell. HateWatch won't change that fact.
As a result of our listing on HateWatch (and other hate lists), a number of KKK-type people have contacted me. Some have even made links to this website. They think that since we're on HateWatch we're one of them. THAT IS A LIE. I am a Black person!
On the positive side, a lot of people have found our site through HateWatch--and a number of them were happy to find us--
Aside:   Telling the truth is not the easy thing to do. It is easier to go with the flow and let people die in their sins--but that is not love. That is HATE. To know somebody is going to the lake of fire and not alert them is HATE. All we want to do is tell people the truth so that they can get saved.
But why are you being filtered?
When I went to HateWatch last year, I noticed that they had a cooperative agreement with an internet filter. I even checked to see if we were filtered through that particular service. At the time we weren't, but I've since gotten confirmation that we are filtered in probably dozens of internet filters. About two weeks ago, someone said to me, "Why can't I get your site at work? We can get porno." I suspected we were being filtered, but the confirmation just came today.
One of our readers said,
I have just suscribed to a internet filter service called cleaninter.net and went to go to your site and found my access denied by the filter service. The filter service was recommended by David Cloud, and is supposed to be run by an unaffiliated (independent) Baptist. ...I am reasonably assured it cannot be for doctrinal reasons. I also know it cannot be for the information about Wicca as I went to wicca.com and the filter let me through. So now I am curious as to why I cannot access the Jesus-is-Lord.com site.
As a result of this e-mail, I wrote to cleaninter.net and asked why I was blocked--
One of my readers says that we've been filtered on your service and he asked me why. I know that lots of folks hate us, but I don't know of any Bible believing Christians that do. I attend an independent Baptist church. Please review the site and let me know, if you don't mind. If you were a secular group I would not be writing you about this. Our address: http://www.Jesus-is-Lord.com
for Jesus' sake,
Ezek 2:4, 6
This is what CleanInter.net said to me--
I've been to your site.
I know exactly why you are being blocked.
You speak against other religions as if you have some infallible truth on your side. You speak as though something or someone has told you to do so and given you the authority to do it.
In your eyes, Evolutionists are wrong
Catholics are cultists.
Wicca is witchcraft.
The New Age of enlightenment is Satan worship.
Buddhism is wrong
Paganism is mumbo-jumbo
Not only that but you then offer tools to wage war on those that believe differently than you and call them Witnessing tools.
And finally, you hold the King James 1611 Bible as the best translation, even though all the great theological minds of the day say different.
You have been unblocked.
God bless you for your stand.
Are there any other url's that you use.
I want to be sure to unblock them all.
Some liberal must have put you in the block list.
Don't be a stranger. Any thing you need, in any way I can be a help, Email me.
Praise God for a company standing on the Book! ...If you need a filter service and still want to get Jesus-is-Lord.com, go to Cleaninter.net [2013 update: this was written some years ago, not sure if this filtering service remains].
The world hates the Bible believer! Jesus said in Matthew 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake
They hate the gospel message so much that they attempt censor it. I say "attempt" because the word of God cannot be bound. These are the same people who cry, "No censorship!" A pack of hypocrital wild dogs. They think they bind me by putting me on these filters but I confidently say with the Apostle Paul--
Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel: Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is NOT bound.
Every wicked person that attempts to block the word of God WILL give account. The day is coming when all the accounts will be settled. I will not lose any sleep and I will not be worried because you see,
God [is not] worried.
God [is not] pressed.
and God [is not] pleased.
...Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. (Romans 12:19)
For my beloved brothers and sisters.
The day is darker than you may think. If there are files on this site that you want, save them now. I am working on a downloadable zip file so that you can save the whole site in one step. I have no intentions of taking down the site, but as we all know, the night cometh when no man can work...
Last year somebody directed me to the United Nation's Interpol (international police) site where they had a list of five (5) hate lists. Jesus-is-lord.com was on two of them. For those of you who don't have your minds made up, you will fall down like a house of cards when tribulation comes. Jesus Christ is the Lord! Do you hear me? JESUS CHRIST IS THE LORD! Do not fear what a weak, devil worshipping, wicked man may do to you. The wicked has his day coming. I am not scared and I am not backing down. Stand up for the Lord--HE IS THE ONE YOU THAT SHOULD FEAR.
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 10:28
...The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. Hebrews 13:6
They'll have to drag me out of here before I'll take this website down. I won't be the first or the last to go to jail or get killed. Make up your mind NOW. Don't wait until tribulation comes, it'll be too late then. Walk with the Lord NOW. Don't wait until tribulation comes. If you do, you'll be so scared, Jesus will be the last person on your mind. You'll give up without a fight. You'll give in to the devil with no resistance. Make Jesus first NOW and He will remain in that place--FIRST--which is where He ought to be in your life. The Bible says that we are soldiers. Know your weapon--the word of God. Walk holy and you'll be filled with the power of God.
I have not shared with you all that is going on, but until my last breath, I will testify in the name of the Lord Jesus. Take the information and use it!
for Jesus' sake,
a sold-out sister.
Just got this e-mail on 5-30-99,
Wow, Lots of information here at this site. I actually found it when I was following links that someone had put up under a site called "Stop the Hate". Apparently you get listed if you are Anti-anything. Although I did not see any listed like Anti-Pedophile.
Anyway I will have to return to do some more reading.